Talk:Ogre

huh
now if I recall phogoth was seen in a different trailer than the creature seen here. Now they may be (and probably are) the same creature, it is entirely possible they are two seperate individuals of the same type. So this picture may not be phogoth. ralok (talk) 13:56, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * See File:Out Here in the Wild - Official Destiny ViDoc at 3:38 (you'll have to pause and be sure to view in high definition). The "goal" on the left side of the screen states "Kill the Phogoth" and you can see a monster with a waypoint/star over its head. I think sufficient evidence exists that this is the same monster -- compare the Out Here in the Wild timestamp with File:Official Destiny Gameplay Trailer The Moon at 1:40: glowing bracelets are seen on its wrists, a massive skull with short legs, the room looks to be the same room from a different angle, and the size as compared to a Guardian appears to match up. Obviously, it's still speculation until confirmed (which is why the conjecture tag is still on this article), but I think the evidence is sufficient to create the article and make the assertions as long as the appropriate conjecture tags are still used (see Help:MOS). Thanks! :-) Foman123 (talk) 05:23, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I know they are BIOLOGICALLY identical. But there may be more than one monster of the same type as phogoth... but they are wearing the same clothes, so I will not argue the point! ralok (talk) 15:38, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Name?
So, even though Bungie has refered to this thing as a Phogoth, here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=540107759417866&set=a.398946146867362.88374.356414807787163&type=1&theater they call it a Hive Ogre. Should we do anything about the page name, or just add that info to the page? M67PattonZippo (talk) 13:46, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice catch. Even though the Facebook Destiny page is run by Activision, not Bungie, I think this is the first time we've definitely seen a name attached to this particular creature. I think we should rename the page to "Ogre" and add in a bit about speculation on the name "Phogoth". Perhaps "Phogoth" or "The Phogoth" is the name of this particular Ogre, and there are more than one Ogres. Either way, "Ogre" is a more definitive name at this point than "Phogoth", so we should go with that. I'll leave this alone for a bit to let anyone else add their comments/support/oppositions, but otherwise I'll move this content to a new page within the next 24 hours. Thanks for the catch!! Foman123 (talk) 00:59, December 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem, I'm happy to help.  M67PattonZippo (talk) 13:04, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Rename
I think Phogoth's title, "The Untamed," should be removed from the title of the article; the same has been done with Xur and many Fallen bosses. OutrightUndead 19:41, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Also, why does Phogoth's talk page redirect to Ogre's talk page? OutrightUndead 19:42, September 20, 2014 (UTC)