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They are the same person. It's been confirmed through lore. As Azzir he was a titan and he wielded Rose (its not confirmed if his gun was actually called rose or if he just viewed it as a rose). When he defeated Hive on the moon alone, (even without his ghost. He told his ghost to stay outside while he entered the hive structure) he took some of the bones and grafted them to his gun as a trophy. Those bones were cursed by a witch and eventually turned him to darkness. His gun became Thorn and he became Dredgen Yor. At that point he became classless. The legends portray him as a hunter but that's not true.